Interliner ahah weird the web must be selling fakes then, didn't notice that.
Joey Jo-Jo
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The Rise of the Conscious Class
by truthseeker in"i believe in one god, and no more; and i hope for happiness beyond this life.
i believe the equality of man, and i believe that religious duties consist in doing justice, loving mercy, and endeavoring to make our fellow-creatures happy.
but, lest it should be supposed that i believe many other things in addition to these, i shall, in the progress of this work, declare the things i do not believe, and my reasons for not believing them.
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The Rise of the Conscious Class
by truthseeker in"i believe in one god, and no more; and i hope for happiness beyond this life.
i believe the equality of man, and i believe that religious duties consist in doing justice, loving mercy, and endeavoring to make our fellow-creatures happy.
but, lest it should be supposed that i believe many other things in addition to these, i shall, in the progress of this work, declare the things i do not believe, and my reasons for not believing them.
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Joey Jo-Jo
cattails: Same here but without learning greek, im using the Interlinear bile book to cross reference with the Kingdom interlinear.
It's a really good book.
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Joey's trip to the library
by Joey Jo-Jo inin relation to this thread, the destruction of jerusalem 607bce.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/bible/194806/1/library-visit-2-607-bce-vs-587-bce-with-pictures.
i'm doing my own research on this date, majority (98%) of sources points to 587bce, i'm still studying jw enterpretation of bible chronology and other books but so far there seems to be little support for 607bce.. .
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In relation to this thread, the destruction of Jerusalem 607BCE
I'm doing my own research on this date, majority (98%) of sources points to 587BCE, I'm still studying JW enterpretation of bible chronology and other books but so far there seems to be little support for 607BCE.
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Spiritual spies
by Joey Jo-Jo ini have been reading coc and isocf in the train every morning and noticed some funny stuff occurring.. .
this witness (i knew because i have seen her before reading jw literature, she probably saw me as well before reading a jw book but we never spoke), she spotted somehow and knew that i was reading apostate books, i was on the far left of the train and she was on the far right, i have good peripheral vision and noticed her having a good look at me ( to advise the spiritual policemen) and when i turned my head to the right she would quickly look away, this happened on two occasions.. .
after a week or so i was sitting in the same spot and on the far left there was another women who i had never seen before, i didnt noticed her at all until i heard the noise of camera taking a picture (most likely a mobile making the noise of a camera when taking a picture, which most do), again i turned my head around to the right and she somehow magically fell asleep in an instance, one second she is taking a photo the other shes asleep ahahah.. .
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Joey Jo-Jo
When they see me they probably see a wolf under sheep skin, little do they know that the jokes on them.
It's sad really that I thought like this also in my younger years, that I thought I knew things but wouldn't be able to point them in the bible, I get upset at stuff like this but at the same time sad that some people don't know any better and think they are doing Gods service
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Have your JW Relatives Explained about Generation/Overlap Change to You ?
by flipper inafter reading on the way out's thread about his mom explaining the generation overlap to him it kicked this idea into my head to make this thread .
i thought it would be helpful to see if anybody here has had jw relatives or friends try to explain this " generation overlap " theory to you as a faded or inactive witness and what happened in the conversations.
so please feel free to post your experiences.
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Joey Jo-Jo
Djeggnog
In currently studying the date regarding 607BCE, I have been reading various books, wt and and other sources, and I was wondering if you could show me in the bible:-
1)that jesus in speaking of these gentile times had in mind the seven times of Nebuchadnezzar's madness mentioned in Daniel 4
2)that these seven times were seven years
3)that these years were not ordinary Babylonian calendar years but prophetic years of 360 days each, and therefore 2520 days in total.
4)that these 2,520 days not only applied to the period of Nebuchadnezzar's madness but also would have a greater fulfillment.
5)that in this greater fulfillment days should be counted as years so we get 2,520 years
6)that this 2,520 year period started when Nebuchadnezzar in his 18th regnal year desolated Jerusalem
Thanks in advance,
Joey
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Spiritual spies
by Joey Jo-Jo ini have been reading coc and isocf in the train every morning and noticed some funny stuff occurring.. .
this witness (i knew because i have seen her before reading jw literature, she probably saw me as well before reading a jw book but we never spoke), she spotted somehow and knew that i was reading apostate books, i was on the far left of the train and she was on the far right, i have good peripheral vision and noticed her having a good look at me ( to advise the spiritual policemen) and when i turned my head to the right she would quickly look away, this happened on two occasions.. .
after a week or so i was sitting in the same spot and on the far left there was another women who i had never seen before, i didnt noticed her at all until i heard the noise of camera taking a picture (most likely a mobile making the noise of a camera when taking a picture, which most do), again i turned my head around to the right and she somehow magically fell asleep in an instance, one second she is taking a photo the other shes asleep ahahah.. .
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Joey Jo-Jo
wasblind:- Not at all, i dont think I was being paranoid because it all caught me by surprise, I have been taking this trains carrige for 6 years and never spotted a JW from my cong.
Ynot:- Thats a good idea, taking pictures alone is considered as an invasion of privacy, such law abiding citizens...not.
wantstoleave:- sure thing, I will keep everyone posted.
So what should I say about reading apostate material incase I ever get a shepherding call ?
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Spiritual spies
by Joey Jo-Jo ini have been reading coc and isocf in the train every morning and noticed some funny stuff occurring.. .
this witness (i knew because i have seen her before reading jw literature, she probably saw me as well before reading a jw book but we never spoke), she spotted somehow and knew that i was reading apostate books, i was on the far left of the train and she was on the far right, i have good peripheral vision and noticed her having a good look at me ( to advise the spiritual policemen) and when i turned my head to the right she would quickly look away, this happened on two occasions.. .
after a week or so i was sitting in the same spot and on the far left there was another women who i had never seen before, i didnt noticed her at all until i heard the noise of camera taking a picture (most likely a mobile making the noise of a camera when taking a picture, which most do), again i turned my head around to the right and she somehow magically fell asleep in an instance, one second she is taking a photo the other shes asleep ahahah.. .
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Joey Jo-Jo
Wasblind: As I mentioned before she had seen me reading jw books but we have never spoken, she started acting weird after I started reading those books, maybe she knows me from the cong I go to but I dont know her??, if she was not a JW why was she acting weird?
Regarding the other women read my post again, I saw everything.
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Spiritual spies
by Joey Jo-Jo ini have been reading coc and isocf in the train every morning and noticed some funny stuff occurring.. .
this witness (i knew because i have seen her before reading jw literature, she probably saw me as well before reading a jw book but we never spoke), she spotted somehow and knew that i was reading apostate books, i was on the far left of the train and she was on the far right, i have good peripheral vision and noticed her having a good look at me ( to advise the spiritual policemen) and when i turned my head to the right she would quickly look away, this happened on two occasions.. .
after a week or so i was sitting in the same spot and on the far left there was another women who i had never seen before, i didnt noticed her at all until i heard the noise of camera taking a picture (most likely a mobile making the noise of a camera when taking a picture, which most do), again i turned my head around to the right and she somehow magically fell asleep in an instance, one second she is taking a photo the other shes asleep ahahah.. .
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Joey Jo-Jo
Hi,
I have been reading COC and ISOCF in the train every morning and noticed some funny stuff occurring.
This witness (I knew because I have seen her before reading jw literature, she probably saw me as well before reading a jw book but we never spoke), she spotted somehow and knew that I was reading apostate books, I was on the far left of the train and she was on the far right, I have good peripheral vision and noticed her having a good look at me ( to advise the spiritual policemen) and when I turned my head to the right she would quickly look away, this happened on two occasions.
After a week or so I was sitting in the same spot and on the far left there was another women who I had never seen before, I didn’t noticed her at all until I heard the noise of camera taking a picture (most likely a mobile making the noise of a camera when taking a picture, which most do), again I turned my head around to the right and she somehow magically fell asleep in an instance, one second she is taking a photo the other she’s asleep ahahah.
I feel like there’s a spiritual gun turned to my head, little do they know that I’m not even a un-bathtised publisher. I regret taking a book study and I have a funny feeling that my liberal studies are going to back fire on me, my parents being JW’s Im not certain what will happen.
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Was the legend about Smurfs being demonic just an urban legend, or was it mentioned in the literature?
by IsaacJ22 ini never heard about the smurfs being evil until i joined the forum.
but when i look in the volume library, the word doesn't come up.
i was wondering if anyone ever heard mention of it in the literature--as in, was it an official position?.
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Joey Jo-Jo
I don't think that smurfs actually represent anything demonic, but I heard a form of poltergeist specifically on toys or any other objects, in my youth I saw a mug fly out the window due to poltergeist activity around the house, are mugs satanic? no.
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Rolf Johan Furuli
by Joey Jo-Jo insorry if this is a repost,.
would anyone have any backgroud information to his claims of 607 bce?.
books he wrote about this?.
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Joey Jo-Jo
Thanks!,